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Therapists Uncut Podcast

Jun 20, 2022


If you or someone you know has struggled with addiction, you know it can be an ugly disease that impacts everyone. In this episode, we speak with Christian Author Kathryn Mae Inman and author of “Counting Spoons; A Memoir of Heroin, Heartache, and Hope,” about the impact addiction has had on her family, as her youngest son Justin battled heroin addiction.

After 30 years as an Operations Director for a non-profit organization, Kathryn now write, speaks, “advocates for families affected by addiction, and is determined to spread a message of hope to anyone that will listen.”


Christian Author of Counting Spoons Kathryn Mae Inman

Kathryn M. Inman exposes her heart and her faith in her debut book, Counting Spoons. Kathryn is a former Operations Director for a non-profit organization where she worked for over thirty years, then she resigned, traded in her high heels for flip flops, and moved to Hawaii where she discovered her passion for writing. Now semi-retired and back in California, she writes, is an advocate for families affected by addiction, and is determined to spread a message of hope to anyone that will listen.

Having dealt with many trials in her life, Kathryn is a writer who exposes it all—thick layers of suffering, hard truths, deep pain, and hope in Christ that will leave her readers feeling inspired. She loves Jesus, her husband, their beautiful blended family, healthy living, nature, and horses. Kathryn has a lofty disdain for chocolate, pancakes, and anything sweet—other than her three grandchildren who she claims are the sweetest of all.


Find Kathryn Mae Inman


Instagram: @kathrynminman



In this episode we talk about:

  • How Kathryn learned about her son’s addiction
  • How Kathryn’s family was affected by addiction
  • What signs of addiction, if any, were present in Justin’s behavior
  • Why Kathryn felt the need to maintain privacy around how her family was being impacted by addiction
  • How Kathryn’s mental health was impacted by her son’s addiction
  • What role relapse played in Justin’s addiction and how it impacted the family
  • When hope was lost, what helped Kathryn find hope again?
  • How Kathryn’s faith in God played a role in this journey


Resources mentioned:

We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some links:

Buy a copy of “Counting Spoons; A Memoir of Heroin, Heartache, and Hope” by Kathryn Mae Inman


Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) National Help Line

SAMHSA’s National Helpline, 1-800-662-HELP (4357) (also known as the Treatment Referral Routing Service), or TTY: 1-800-487-4889is a confidential, free, 24-hour-a-day, 365-day-a-year, information service, in English and Spanish, for individuals and family members facing mental and/or substance use disorders. This service provides referrals to local treatment facilities, support groups, and community-based organizations.

Also visit the online treatment locator, or send your zip code via text message: 435748 (HELP4U) to find help near you. Read more about the HELP4U text messaging service.

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What is the Therapists Uncut Podcast:

The Therapists Uncut Podcast is a light-hearted, informative self-help podcast for grown-ups. It is hosted by off-the-clock therapists hoping to validate your experiences, normalize therapy and therapists, and help you prioritize your mental health.

Who are the Therapists Uncut Podcast Co-Hosts:

Nikki Young is co-host of Therapists Uncut and a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist. Nikki keeps it personable and professional. Yet, she always manages to keep the Therapists Uncut family and followers laughing. You may find her squirrelingthrough topics, stories, or jokes, and all in good fun. Don't worry because someone will bring her back around to the conversation. Nikki is a licensed marriage and family therapist in her private practice located in Modesto, CA, and she is also a Crisis Junkie at heart. In addition to being co-owner of a group private practice, she is also a crisis clinician responding to local mental health crisis and emergencies. Learn more about Nikki at

Alyssa Najera is co-host of Therapists Uncut and a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. Alyssa is typically calm and composed on most days, but often has difficulty containing her excitement about the little things in life. She loves to laugh, spread positivity, and is often caught with a smile on her face. Alyssa is also a Child Welfare Services social worker and supervisor alumni, previous child sexual abuse forensic interviewer, trainer and consultant, and CEO of a group private practice in the small town of Oakdale, CA. Learn more about Alyssa at or


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